mark edward marchiafava
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I open carried, no cops there the whole day(that I saw), a non-event.
I open carried, no cops there the whole day(that I saw), a non-event.
Opencarry.org is a website that is dedicated to the laws involving open carry, not to the constitutions of those states.AGAIN: if the AG insists you must have a permit to carry a HOLSTERED weapon, just what is the state constitution babbling about? Just how do you "bear arms" and NOT be guilty of carrying a concealed weapon? Please tell me, inquiring minds want to know.
Why doesn't opencarry.org simply engage Mississippi "government" about the issue and print the ridiculous comments here for all the world to see? Of all the state constitutions I've read concerning the right to BEAR arms, Mississippi's has got to be the most clearly worded of them all.I think that open carry in a holster is concealed under MS court holdings, and thus permit holders CAN legally carry in holsters.
However, John and I have "officially"erred for now on caution on the main map page category for MS.
Please do help explore this issue in MS and let us know if we should put MS back to "green," as a licensed OC state.
Good grief.............Last time I checked, state constitutions are considered the SUPREME law of the state. Therefore, the part of state constitutions dealing with bearing arms have standing on this website. Laws do not "stand as fact until struck down," at least not according to the SCOTUS, who ruled decades ago that any law repugnant to the constitution was null and void on it's face. Yea, Lonnie, I "marched" into Mississippi. Just as you twist words, "marching" now must include driving.Is it now wrong to tell a public servant what they are doing is wrong? Or, are you just one more closet patriot who worships the power of the state and considers them to be sovereign? You must work for the Mississippi AG's office.
Your first mistake is trusting that the national media attention would always be a good thing.One person CAN make a difference. By myself, with no help from anyone, I have made my voice heard and have gotten a response. Just imagine if they were hearing from THOUSANDS of likeminded citizens !!! Bring in some national media exposure (something their kind really hate) and things begin to change. After studying history for decades, I have yet to find a petty tyrant who woke up one morning and said, "hey, I'm tired of violating the serfs, I'm going to restore their rights and property." If you want your rights back, you're going to have to take them back by whatever means work. If that includes what you consider "pestering" them, so be it. I guess we could all do what the founders tried: petition the throne for years, only to be pissed on. And why would anyone care how James Dale felt? After all, HE works for US !!! If there were a REAL gun rights group in this country, the motion for a declaratory judgement would have already been filed. Instead of pissing away millions up in Virginia, the NRA (negotiate rights away) could be using those members' dues to actually achieve something worthwhile.
And you STILL have yet to answer my question: just how do you BEAR arms and NOT be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon without a permit?
this law is not nice.does anyone have a link to the case law for the 'any part in the holster equals concealed' case?
mark edward marchiafava wrote:AGAIN: if the AG insists you must have a permit to carry a HOLSTERED weapon, just what is the state constitution babbling about? Just how do you "bear arms" and NOT be guilty of carrying a concealed weapon? Please tell me, inquiring minds want to know.
This ain't Utahmark edward marchiafava wrote:Why EMPTY holsters ???THANK YOU DAVE !!!! Permit. We don't need no stinkin' permit.
Or try this on for size. Round up as many as we can and visit police stations/sheriff's offices wearing EMPTY holsters. Hand a copy of the state constitution, article 3 sec 12, ask the chief/sheriff to READ it (probably for the first time) and ask HIM to explain just how we exercise a right to BEAR arms in the Magnolia state. Believe me, I've done this and the results are often quite funny. If you're waiting for the NRA (negotiate rights away) to come assist us, well, I've got some land near Disneyworld for sale.
I can go into a Police Station WITHOUT a permit in the State of Utah WITH a gun in the Holster