mspgunner
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The open carry movement has been successful in changing the State statute sighted above for the benefit of the people of The State of Missouri which supersedes that of your municipal code.1 To avoid any misunderstanding or any action which might be initiated by law enforcement the communication of this change in State law should 2 be immediately disseminated throughout your City for the safety and security of both your law enforcement personnel and the law abiding citizens who exercise this “right” 3 under the Missouri statutes.
I personally stand ready to engage in discussion with the law enforcement agency and City elected officials who may have questions in regard to this change in State law. I would ask that your City laws/ordinances be rapidly modified to correct for this change in Missouri State law.
Sincerely,
Looked awesome until the second to last paragraph. Three things I would change (bolded & numbered in the quote):
1) Remove this sentence entirely. Citing a movement, and specifically stating that State Law trumps their law may alienate them. They already know State law supersedes theirs, and they don't need to know there is any kind of OC movement.
2) Change it to "we request". This way, they get the feeling that it's their choice, which allows them to save face in their own eyes.
3) Remove the quotes. It is a right. No need to sugarcoat it.
Other than that, I like it! Good job.
First, I admire your sense of initiative....If "we" give notice when the veto over ride is complete, assuming it is, we can decrease the possibility of a LEO encounter, facilitate changes in municipal laws and proactively prevent any misunderstanding on their part...
Looks perfect to me.
My little burg already has a OC is ok with CCW permit ordinance. Another smaller nearby burg has a no OC period ordinance. I have already put the council, mayor and police chief of that burg on notice that if HB436 gets overridden their little pissy ordinance goes out the door. They have checked into it and are not happy but said they would follow the new law..
.....STLPD is gunna have a fit.
Especially when we send them the photo of all of us OC'ing under the arch.
You know it's going to get taken sometime. Not if, but when.
I plan on being in the photo.
This was my intention! The arch photo op is a priority.
As far as the stop and identify with CCW in Muni's that prohibit... I had to bend at every corner to get this through, if I had not we'd have gotten NOTHING!
Getting any progress with OC took me 4 years! I just listened to the voices and said yes.
There are too many that could just say no and had the power to use that word... NO!
Like I have said since the start "anyone is free to go to Jeff City and try this themselves, good luck".
When the time comes to OC in maplewood, the City of St. louis... on and on and on I'll carry my CCW in my shirt pocket, it wil save time, for me and LOEs.
Eventually they'll just get tired of it. If it happens more than once in thr same muni the same day, it's harassement, that can be dealth with!
I hope that wil change next year? PlANS are already written. My Momma didn't raise no fool, there are ways...
thanks for the hard work mspgunner. i know the legislation is far from perfect. but its better than nothing, and its a start. lets just hope and pray the veto is successful.
i wish i could be there on the 10th but i will still be here in sunny NAS Pensacola. i think i can be back in Missouri on leave on the 27th, open carrying everywhere, hopefully.
Thank you for your service osmanobma.
Fingers crossed and locked & loaded for 9/11/13!