twoskinsonemanns
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A rhetorical question...What would it take?
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I suppose it would strongly depend upon what he means by liberty and fight.
Right now, I certainly would, using courts and elections.
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At what point would I resist using arms? who knows. It would have to be a stage at which there was no other possible way to restore lost freedoms and the government is so out of hand that our representative republic is effectively transitioned to an oligarchy, And I'm not sure what the looks like yet.
I found in very insightful when he talked about asking his students (in relationship to the TSA) if there was any point at all, any level of invasion they would not accept.... answer: no
Yea, my minor son said "It's OK dad, I don't care" at the airport. I told him he does not get to decide what is right or wrong about a guy who wants to grope you.
Young people are not too bright ... its one of the reasons why I favor the draft (in addition to costs).. when they put their butts on the line or sweat for our constitution then they'll think twice about the "we don't care" answer.
Do you honestly think that we can correct all the wrongs with our current system in our lifetime?
Oligarchy is, if I am not mistaken, a small group of individuals or corporations being in control. Does that description not seem to fit our current government? The masses are mostly preoccupied with other things, such as facebook and reddit.
To get our government back into their bounds we need something drastic. Something to wake the masses into action. I hope what it takes does not take lives and can be reversible and I hope that action is a peaceful one. But I do not know.
Yea, my minor son said "It's OK dad, I don't care" at the airport. I told him he does not get to decide what is right or wrong about a guy who wants to grope you.
Young people are not too bright ... its one of the reasons why I favor the draft (in addition to costs).. when they put their butts on the line or sweat for our constitution then they'll think twice about the "we don't care" answer.
Great job. I'm sure you taught him why in addition to it's not his decision.
Recent my son's school (he's in 5th) decided the only way for children to buy school lunches from now on would be by a finger print system.
I said hell no. I explained to my son that I felt the gov did not have the right to seize his finger print. I told him when he was grown up he could make the decision if he wanted to volunteer his finger print to the gov but I was going to save that choice for him.
They sent home a form. Telling me I had to sign some sort of op-ed out waiver. I wrote a letter back refusing to sign any waiver, stating they need my permission to seize my son's finger print. Not some sort of form I have to fill out to get permission for them to not take it.
I never heard anything about it.
Finger print day came. They told him his dad didn't sign a form so he had to give his finger print to the gov. He said he's not allowed. They said he had no choice. He physically refused to hand over his finger and was sent to the principal's office. The principal called my wife. She told him we will not allow the school to seize his finger print and he would bring his lunch.
Son tells me all about it when he gets home.
Next day I show up demanding to speak with the principal.
We sit down. I make a show of pulling my recorder out and turning it on and putting it back in my pocket. I did this for one reason, I was trying trick him into saying something wrong so I could go above him, I wanted a quick peaceful resolution.
I said I'm so-and-so's father, I want an explanation as to why he felt he was bullied into giving his finger print yesterday.
He gave me the line about the waiver. I told him my stance about that, that he needed my permission, I did not have to get permission for them to not take my son's finger print.
I told him he wasn't getting the finger print. He said okay.
Then I said I want you to make it crystal clear to me that you are going to refuse my son a school lunch unless he gives up his finger print. (Just to be clear this is a lunch I pay for, I've been paying about $60 a school month for the last 5 years for this food with no problems)
He then told me he never meant to imply that, and that it was illegal for them to ever refuse a child a meal regardless of any other circumstances.
He said he can just scan his school badge like he has always done and everything is fine.
4 kids in the entire school did not give over their finger print. 3 signed waivers 1 did not.
Super OT but just wanted to brag about my kid standing up for what I told him was right, I hope he will understand the why of it when he is older.
Holy cow, a fingerprint for the new obama lunches that don't provide enough calories for athletic children? What's that for, so they can track what he's eating? that's scary, You know in 5th grade I would never have had the guts to stand up to the principal, in High School I stood up for myself three times
1) Someone told me the school's environmental policy forbade me from idling my car engine for the heat while waiting for a friend to get out of class, I told that employee of the school to come back with an RCW saying I couldn't burn my own gasoline to warm the cabin of my own car, she backed off and never bothered me again
2) A teacher told me to remove my "Team Glock" hat that I got with my GSSF membership, I told him no, and he threatened to get a dean of students, I told him to call the dean and he lost interest right there, same teacher also told my brother to remove a similar hat the year after that saying that a glock hat was a "symbol of oppression" my brother complied unfortunatley.
3) An office lady once refused to allow me to leave the campus without parental approval after I had turned 18, I called a dean of students and he allowed me to leave without filling out the form...
Still, That's pretty damn scary, what will they want next? a DNA sample for lunch?
I'm glad your son had the guts to keep saying no to the school, even knowing mommy and daddy are behind him, it's difficult for a kid that age to refuse authority, they're naturally willing to please....
Yeah I was shocked to see only 4 parents refused... I mean it's WV.
Good job standing up for yourself in school. It's hard to believe they get away with forcing so much crap. "Symbol of oppression"?! What a crock.
I think most of the time they get away with it because people just allow it since it's easier.
yeah, I literally watched the transformation of my school district, my first three years of elementary school for halloween kids would come dressed as cowboys or soldiers and they'd have their little cap guns or sparkling M-16 mockups, and no one cared, after then it became suspendable, my first grade year a kid brought a pocket knife, and the teacher called the kid's mom to pick up the knife, the very year after it was suspensions for first and second graders who brought their little pen knives with them.
by my junior year of high school I had gotten so sick of it that I enrolled in a program called "running start" that allowed me to take most of my classes at a local community college 20 miles away, and I did that instead. So by the time I was resisting in those three instances I was already mostly gone and only taking two classes at that high school anyway. all my other classes I was taking at college and getting dual credit "both high school and college credit from the same college classes" so at that point it was pretty much a moot point most of the time, sure colleges are breeding grounds for people who are on the left-wing of things, but they also have strong protections for freedom of expression.... and treat you like an adult.
They sent home a form. Telling me I had to sign some sort of op-ed out waiver. I wrote a letter back refusing to sign any waiver, stating they need my permission to seize my son's finger print. Not some sort of form I have to fill out to get permission for them to not take it.
Great job. I'm sure you taught him why in addition to it's not his decision.
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