swillden
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marshaul wrote:
marshaul wrote:
True, but pointless, because the average American isn't going to work that hard, and the parties are never going to stop defining themselves by one or two issues because it works. If you want to make real change, you have to accept that the parties are the vehicle, and figure out how to drive them where you want them.Tess wrote:
Precisely right.Much more important than debating whether a third party could (or would) do anything differently should be a push to abandon both the Democrat and the Republican parties.
Get American away from "us" vs "them" -- don't vote party, vote issues.
To keep a consistent message on that, rather than on ad hominem attacks and "Dems are evil" and "Republicans are confused", would go a long way toward getting people back to what is important.
We would do extremely well if we could get both parties away from defining themselves by one or two issues.
Would Obama have won if people didn't frame the issue as "Bush = Republican, Bush is bad, therefore Democrats are good"? If people had voted on issues, balancing them appropriately, we might have seen the same end game, but the scoreboard would look significantly different.