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His name is Obama.

PrayingForWar

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I would have to point out that many on the right were doing the drunken children schtick when it was happening to Bush W.. Now THEY are the ones who are doing the exact same thing to Obama. If you're saying it's OK to do these things because they did them first who is really coming off as the child?

On a side note to race being brought up just because someone disparages Obama. If what we want is equality in the country then it must be equal for all things including ridicule. Disagreement does not equal racism. I am sure President Obama doesn't wish to be viewed as a Black President, only as President and that is how I view him. If I disagree with his views or policies, I am disagreeing with the President, no other qualifier need be added.


I would have to say those on the right were much more dignified when GWB was in office, but then again I am admittedly a hardcore rightwinger and biased. As I've said, GWB, was NOT a "right winger" at least as far as my understanding of right wing philosophy goes.

That said the childish tantrums coming from GWB or even Palin supporters are what they are, but they're dwarfed in relation to the wailing and gnashing of teeth that the moonbat messiah's mindless acolytes are well known for. There is in my mind few things more insidious than manipulating people into ignoring the vitriol from the left, by insisting that the opposition to socialist policies from a MULATTO president is tantamount to racism. Exactly what race is BHO? It seems he wants to be identified as all black sometimes, irish other times, and then there was a certain idiot "professor" from Cornell that called him a "black puppet" of the white bankers.

The bottom line is, the only "racists" left in America are so thouroughly marginalized that ALL OF US, can't wait till they overdose on their drugs of choice and die. So few people of any race in this country believe they're superior to another based on that issue alone. Merely opposing political ambitions is not racism. For that matter a white person who doesn't want to live in the neighborhoods dominated by blacks, is no more a racist than the blacks who move out of these areas to escape the high crime rates, pisspoor schools, and lack of opportunity common in any neighborhood dominated by leftist politics.

It's not racism, it's common sence. IMO racism, as disgusting as it is, is slightly less reprehensible that the demonization of black people who oppose the leftist philosophies that have kept all races in the bondage of dependency to "wealth redistribution". I might feel differently if these rich sociopaths who insist the rich "don't pay their fair share", just gave away all their wealth, shut up and faded into obscurity in the ghettos with the people they pretend they care so much about.
 
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Beretta92FSLady

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Fairly speaking the policies of the OBAMA are not good and thats the reason why he is under high criticism.The USA people dislike him because every decision that he made is not as per there expectations.He have not been able to come up with the expectation of the USA people and that's why he is under some serious criticism.


President Obama is under serious criticism. But all Presidents of the United States have been under serious criticism. There is nothing unique about the criticism.

Today, in America, you are almost guaranteed to make at least 50% of the population pisses from time to time.
 

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I am sure President Obama doesn't wish to be viewed as a Black President, only as President and that is how I view him. If I disagree with his views or policies, I am disagreeing with the President, no other qualifier need be added.

I will have to disagree. He is in fact very proud of being the first black president (although thats technically inaccurate as he's only halfsies.) He said as much in one of his first speeches after taking office if I remember right. something about the election of a black man being a major step forward for the fundamental transformation of the country, you know something like that. and yes YOU may be disagreeing with the office, but he and his minions see you disagreeing with the man.

As a racism side note...Herman cain 2012 WWWOOOOOOO! I'm a white guy that likes HC! call me racist I dare you!

Back on topic, While i don't like the man and his policies any more than the next rational American, I do not use childish pseudonyms to describe him. Labels, yes, name calling no. Name calling is counter productive, it causes people who might be converted to your point of view to turn away. why? because name calling put you below the opposition and makes it seem as though you have reverted to name calling because you have no factually based arguments. Labels are acceptable. Defamatory names like jackass, dumb ass etc are not acceptable, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE TRYING TO APPEAR PROFESSIAL AND PRESENT A VALID ARGUMENT

Be rational. 'Nuff said
 

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I will have to disagree. He is in fact very proud of being the first black president (although thats technically inaccurate as he's only halfsies.) He said as much in one of his first speeches after taking office if I remember right. something about the election of a black man being a major step forward for the fundamental transformation of the country, you know something like that. and yes YOU may be disagreeing with the office, but he and his minions see you disagreeing with the man.

As a racism side note...Herman cain 2012 WWWOOOOOOO! I'm a white guy that likes HC! call me racist I dare you!

Back on topic, While i don't like the man and his policies any more than the next rational American, I do not use childish pseudonyms to describe him. Labels, yes, name calling no. Name calling is counter productive, it causes people who might be converted to your point of view to turn away. why? because name calling put you below the opposition and makes it seem as though you have reverted to name calling because you have no factually based arguments. Labels are acceptable. Defamatory names like jackass, dumb ass etc are not acceptable, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE TRYING TO APPEAR PROFESSIAL AND PRESENT A VALID ARGUMENT

Be rational. 'Nuff said


Where I live Jackass is a label. :) It's great to be "country".

It's even in the dictionary

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jackass
 
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silver

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Your argument lacks syllogism. it is not a label, Dictionary.com specifically states its origins in 1823 as being as an insult meaning "stupid person". its is a name, not a label. Calling him a jackass then, by your definition, works like this -obama is a jackass= obama is so dumb, I don't have anything factual to say i'm just insulting him in an attempt to make him look bad and instead making my self look like a jackass (read, by your definition as "stupid")- You sir, are being pithy. perhaps you should reread the red text in my above post.
 

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Just when you think the "birther" crap has been marginalized, now we're back to his other "records".

Aye, that we are.

From our U.S. Constitution:

- The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

- The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

- The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.

- When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

- Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

From U.S. Code > TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47—FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS > § 1015. Naturalization, citizenship or alien registry: "Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

Bottom Line: Obama lied about his citizenship. He falsified documents, possibly involving bribery, in order to illegally attain access to high office. That's a high crime, certainly far more serious than the misdemeanor level required for impeachment.
 

PrayingForWar

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Aye, that we are.

From our U.S. Constitution:

- The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

- The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

- The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.

- When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside:

- Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

From U.S. Code > TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47—FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS > § 1015. Naturalization, citizenship or alien registry: "Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

Bottom Line: Obama lied about his citizenship. He falsified documents, possibly involving bribery, in order to illegally attain access to high office. That's a high crime, certainly far more serious than the misdemeanor level required for impeachment.

Holy necroposting Batman!!!

I stand by my arguement last year that suggests even a "smoking gun" case of electoral fraud will at best get this fool impeached, but will not reverse his damage.
 

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Yes. Even if the occupant does not respect the Office, we should.

As someone else pointed out in this thread, it is still up to We, the People. We get the presidents we deserve. If we want a better president, let's be a better People.
You're right, of course. Still, I have to admit I laughed the first time I heard someone use the term "Obuttocks."
 
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