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What is required to get an FFL in the State of Connecticut?

davidmcbeth

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1) get zoning permit
2) mail in FFL app
3) meet with AtF in the place where you will be doing business
4) once you get your FFL, you need to get a license from the state of CT
5) get a State of CT sales tac certificate
6) The ATF can do one compliance check per 12 month period, with no warning.
7) you must do a 4473 for every retail sale
8) You must maintain a log book of every gun that passes through your hands.

Don

I held ffl ... had no zoning permit or issues w/zoning and I never saw the atf .. no license from CT is needed (what license?-drivers?)
 

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Gutshot - no offense taken. In my quest for speed, I typed something wrong. I meant to say no ADDITIONAL licenses.

In CT, once you get your dealer or manufacturer FFL you need to get an additional license from the state, then you need to get your tax permit.

I was trying to illustrate how simple getting a C&R is. Everyone who is anything more than a casual shooter should have one. Its worth it just for the discount you get at Brownells.
Getting a C&R is VERY VERY simple. This is a good thing. I'm not demeaning it.

Re: CCP - we don't have CCPs in CT. We have pistol permits. (Jesus, this is oc dot com, you should keep that in mind) Nothing anywhere that has anything to do with anything related to firearms in CT makes any reference to the word concealed. Its also not a CCW. Its a gun/firearm/pistol/handgun/piece/heater/weapon or whatever. Its not a CCW in CT. Unless you are actually carrying it concealed at the time you are referencing it. i.e. "I've got my CCW with me in an IWB holster with a shirt over it".

But why would you say that. saying CCW is 5 syllables. saying gun is one syllable. I hate euphemisms.
 
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I have been reading through various websites and also reading some 45 pages of archives here, excuse my errors.From now on I will refer to it as my PP:lol:

My father in law has his C&R down in Florida and is the one pushing for me to get one. He has some Guns/Rifles that he hasn't seen in years. I'm looking to pick up some from him as he comes across them. That is not the reason why I'm applying for a C&R but it can't hurt to have. This also raises a question:
ATF says I can apply for the C&R without the PP as long as withing 30 days of being issued I have the PP. My question is can I use the Florida permit to list on the form? I will be sending the paperwork for Florida and in speaking with them they are saying 3 week turnaround.
 
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Homeowners Insurance?

Just wondering how others are handling their homeowners insurance with home based FFL's. I called my insurance broker and he has called a bunch of different companies and all of them have told him that I would be disqualified if I started this business even if I purchased additional commercial coverage to cover the business.

Thanks in advance

Joel
 

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Just wondering how others are handling their homeowners insurance with home based FFL's. I called my insurance broker and he has called a bunch of different companies and all of them have told him that I would be disqualified if I started this business even if I purchased additional commercial coverage to cover the business.

Thanks in advance

Joel
Why would you even notify your homeowners insurance carrier, it's not there problem, simply buy a business insurance policy from a reputable company and make sure you carry adequate coverage. I don't see what could possibly happen that would put your homeowners insurance on the hook for anything related to a home based business carrying it's own insurance, even if your house blew up because you stored black powder next to your furnace that would be covered by the business policy and not your homeowners....

Since I don't really have any real answer other than my question and opinion here I suggest you should also maybe contact another broker for a second opinion, home based FFLs were very common up until about 10 years ago, while they are not quite as common now they are still out there...
 

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Why would you even notify your homeowners insurance carrier, it's not there problem, simply buy a business insurance policy from a reputable company and make sure you carry adequate coverage. I don't see what could possibly happen that would put your homeowners insurance on the hook for anything related to a home based business carrying it's own insurance, even if your house blew up because you stored black powder next to your furnace that would be covered by the business policy and not your homeowners....

Since I don't really have any real answer other than my question and opinion here I suggest you should also maybe contact another broker for a second opinion, home based FFLs were very common up until about 10 years ago, while they are not quite as common now they are still out there...

I just didn't want to get screwed down the line, I honestly was doing it as a step to almost just go through the motion, but was surprised by the answers that I received. I plan on contacting an NRA sponsored company and switching everything over to them at this point, but was just curious what others are doing?

Thanks for the input.

Joel
 

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I just didn't want to get screwed down the line, I honestly was doing it as a step to almost just go through the motion, but was surprised by the answers that I received. I plan on contacting an NRA sponsored company and switching everything over to them at this point, but was just curious what others are doing?

Thanks for the input.

Joel

You never ask your insurance company anything. They will lie to you. The only thing that matters is what is written in the text of your policy. If your policy does not explicitly prohibit home based business or home based businesses with firearm, then you are covered.

The problem with what you have done is that while they must indemnify you according to the policy, there is nothing to keep them from dropping you as a policy holder if you give them this info.

The smart thing to do would have been to contact your agent (who works for you) and ask them in writing (email) if there was any prohibition on a home based business. Their answer is their legal commitment to you that you are covered.

Again, we are not saying that your homeowners ins would cover your business inventory. We're merely confirming that the presence of a home based business will not affect your other coverage.

Just to say it again NEVER EVER EVER EVER call your insurance company and ask them about something like this. Ask your agent. But even then. Just say a home based business. If they ask what kind, just tell them you are not sure. Then read your policy. The policy is your contract with the Ins company. It is the law. Not what some guy on the phone says.

Don
 

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You never ask your insurance company anything. They will lie to you. The only thing that matters is what is written in the text of your policy. If your policy does not explicitly prohibit home based business or home based businesses with firearm, then you are covered.

The problem with what you have done is that while they must indemnify you according to the policy, there is nothing to keep them from dropping you as a policy holder if you give them this info.

The smart thing to do would have been to contact your agent (who works for you) and ask them in writing (email) if there was any prohibition on a home based business. Their answer is their legal commitment to you that you are covered.

Again, we are not saying that your homeowners ins would cover your business inventory. We're merely confirming that the presence of a home based business will not affect your other coverage.

Just to say it again NEVER EVER EVER EVER call your insurance company and ask them about something like this. Ask your agent. But even then. Just say a home based business. If they ask what kind, just tell them you are not sure. Then read your policy. The policy is your contract with the Ins company. It is the law. Not what some guy on the phone says.

Don


Live and learn, oh well. At the end of the day, I would rather give my money to an insurance company that is gun friendly anyways.
 

color of law

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I am just starting in this process I’d love to correspond with you if you are available I live in Noank (Groton) CT XXXXXXXXXXXX is my email if you could please contact me.
dcmdon has not been on this forum since 2014. I'm sure you will not get a response. Second, it is not wise putting your contact info on the form.
 

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I remember some advantages of FFL, Did you know if you have an FFL, you can still use an FFL for personal use? That's right, not only can you get an FFL and sell guns from your home as a part-time business opportunity, but you can use your FFL for personal use as well
 

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I remember some advantages of FFL, Did you know if you have an FFL, you can still use an FFL for personal use? That's right, not only can you get an FFL and sell guns from your home as a part-time business opportunity, but you can use your FFL for personal use as well

well, mate, you wish every bad person in the country to easily know you have firearms/ammo in your residence cuz the info is public record.

further, you really want johnny bad-arse to case your place out while walking up to your residence's front door posing as customer knowing either your partner is there alone or better yet your children are by themselves and now terrorized by the home invasion as johnny gets your guns which you have not secured appropriately.

spreading nonsensical idiocy isn't a trend tolerated on the forum.
 

color of law

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I remember some advantages of FFL, Did you know if you have an FFL, you can still use an FFL for personal use? That's right, not only can you get an FFL and sell guns from your home as a part-time business opportunity, but you can use your FFL for personal use as well
Really???? It is apparent you haven't read this thread.
 
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