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well a quandary...

solus

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received a promo for a hamfest to be held at a local American Legion...

w/a notice in the middle of the promo which states...
notice:
due to local ordinances and club policy,
neither weapons nor pornographic
material may be displayed or sold at xyz site.

checking out the 'local ordinances' as well as the 'club' policy...

will set up an appointment w/city attorney tomorrow...

as paul harvey states...the rest of the story forthcoming...

went to the site and there is a notice...
NOTICE: The JARSfest 2021 Flyers that went out have incorrect information at the top with ticket prices.
The Correct Prices at $9.00 preadmission tickets till November 1st 2021 online. $10 at the door.
We apologize for this error but wanted to let everyone know that it occurred and JARS will not honor the prices on the flyer that were mailed out.
Hope this error does not keep you from attending JARSfest 2021.
 
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JARS Constitution and Bylaws
AMENDMENT TWO: FIREARMS
(1) No Open Carry. At NO time shall any firearm be openly displayed at any JARS sponsored
event.
Exceptions:
(a) A uniformed law enforcement officer.
(b) With prior approval of the President or person in charge, and prior notification to the
event participants, an unloaded firearm may be brought and displayed for an educational
event: for example, a gun safety class taught by a qualified instructor.
(2) Lawful Concealed Carry is Permitted. Firearms may be carried by anyone, with the
understanding that:
2.1 Persons with concealed firearms will keep them concealed. We recognize there may
be occasions when a concealed firearm or its outline becomes partially visible, such as
when jumping or bending over, but the owner shall make every reasonable effort to keep
the firearm concealed.
2.2 All persons with a concealed firearm must have completed proper training and
qualification for such firearm, and have in their possession a North Carolina Concealed
Carry Permit, or other qualifying permit issued by a government agency, and carried
within the laws of the State of North Carolina.

approved 20 July 20.
 

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I'm not a ham, but I have a lot of friends who are. My friends happen to also be liberty lovers, but they all agree that as a whole, the ham community will snitch you out faster than a crack whore looking for her next fix.

Organized ham groups consist of the Fudd range officers who will yell at you for firing faster than one shot every three seconds as "rapid fire", or for drawing from the holster.

They tend to take pride in alliance with government, as if obedience is synonymous with "the right thing to do".
 

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actually more concerned by their comment 'due to local ordinances' shifting through how to contact city's mayor/attorney & county commissioner in charge/attorney as well the club's president...
 

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I don't know about JARS, but that's been ARRL's policy for a while. They pissed off a lot of people who would otherwise go to field day.
 

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Since when does ARRL have any say on any club/public property what people carry? Glad I'm not a member of them anymore.
 

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Ok I need to be informed of wat a JAR is and what a HAM is.

Have not heard those terms used around here
Johnson Amature Radio - JAR. HAM = ham-fisted Morse Code radio operator. The code requirement for licensing was done away long ago. ARRL = Amateur Radio Relay League sets performance standards for amateur operators.

Once upon a time licensed amateur radio operators were technological elites. Not so much now.

73 ex-WB6AAZ
 

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I'd have no issue respecting any radio club's policies--after all, I always have the option of simply not attending. Yet, I'll always question the false perception that I'm somehow made a better person by concealing my firearm.
73 de WO2C.
 

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I'd have no issue respecting any radio club's policies--after all, I always have the option of simply not attending. Yet, I'll always question the false perception that I'm somehow made a better person by concealing my firearm.
73 de WO2C.
And that you are more important when you are wearing a coat and tie.
 

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I don't know about JARS, but that's been ARRL's policy for a while. They pissed off a lot of people who would otherwise go to field day.

ya know kb, just searched ARRL's by-laws & articles of association, as well as name searched the site and not one word on their site regarding carrying firearms...

hummm...
 

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ya know kb, just searched ARRL's by-laws & articles of association, as well as name searched the site and not one word on their site regarding carrying firearms...

hummm...
I'm not a member; I'm not a ham.

But I do recall seeing people post (not here) copies of ARRL statements that guns, at least openly visible guns, were not allowed at Field Days.

What can they do about it? I don't know... revoke local club affiliation, I guess.
 

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Private entities, proprietors, property owners will always have the power to deny license trespass for what ever reason. See various contemporary ‘mandates’ and particularly regarding no-guns signage.
Doug, you know that is not true. Proprietors cannot violate persons civil rights and customers cannot violate proprietors' civil rights. Bearing arms is a civil right. Laws must be applied in a manner that is neutral toward all persons’ civil rights. When states give “no gun” signs force of law when it comes to businesses, the state violated someone’s civil rights and they cannot do that. And no I don't have to provide evidence to support my statement because I have done that many many times on the forum.
 
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